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Old 28-12-17, 10:57
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Of course their products are legal, just like a licenced shotgun is legal.

It's what you do with it that determines the legality of use and only a court can make that determination.
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I've just seen this article which may help to clarify the situation. It was posted earlier this month on the Tech Advisor site:

Is it legal to download YouTube video? - Tech Advisor

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It's pretty obvious that Google would want to avoid you downloading its content. Not only does it want to protect its earnings potential, but it has to protect the content creators who upload video to its site who may also be making a living from that content. And this is why you won't find apps that allow you to download YouTube in the Google Play store: Google does not condone such a practice.

But is it actually illegal to download YouTube?

For personal use, no it is not illegal to download YouTube video. But it is immoral.

So, at the end of the day, it's really up to you to decide whether or not downloading video from YouTube for personal use is something you should be doing.
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We won't go into depth over the ins and outs of online piracy here, suffice to say that in order to stay on the right side of the law, any content you do download from the web, for which you do not own the copyright, must be for your personal use only.
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Thanks, Madeline a useful article.
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You're very welcome FratPark!
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Downloading video from YouTube does breach Google's terms of service. Within Section 5.1 it states: "YouTube hereby grants you permission to access and use the Service, subject to the following express conditions, and you agree that your failure to adhere to any of these conditions shall constitute a breach of these Terms on your part: you agree not to access Content through any technology or means other than the video playback pages of the Website itself, the YouTube Player, or such other means YouTube may explicitly designate for this purpose.

"You agree not to access Content for any reason other than your personal, non-commercial use solely as intended through and permitted by the normal functionality of the Service, and solely for Streaming. "Streaming" means a contemporaneous digital transmission of the material by YouTube via the Internet to a user operated Internet enabled device in such a manner that the data is intended for real-time viewing and not intended to be downloaded (either permanently or temporarily), copied, stored, or redistributed by the user.

"You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, or otherwise exploit any Content for any other purposes without the prior written consent of YouTube or the respective licensors of the Content."

In other words, you are permitted to view YouTube video only through Google's own website and apps. You are not permitted to view YouTube video offline on your iPad, iPhone or Android device, PC or laptop through a third-party app.
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Old 31-12-17, 15:59
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So copyright theft is ok on this forum as well as breaching YouTubes T&C ?
You tube wouldnt let anything like that stay on thier site!!
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Old 31-12-17, 22:36
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I'll go with this
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But is it actually illegal to download YouTube?

For personal use, no it is not illegal to download YouTube video. But it is immoral.
It seems to be a categorical statement but it does give you something to consider. Another thing it says in the article is this
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Such third-party apps will continue to pop up on the web, and people will continue to use them to make available offline their favourite YouTube videos. Google might not be aware that you're using them to download content from YouTube, and even if it did any threats of banning you from the service are all but impossible to uphold. After all, you don't need to be signed into your Google account to access YouTube.

So, at the end of the day, it's really up to you to decide whether or not downloading video from YouTube for personal use is something you should be doing.
My underlining. If not necessarily illegal, a matter of conscience according to what you're downloading it seems.
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It's a difficult one. With books or "works of art", copyright lapses so many years after the death of the creator, but film (and record) companies are effectively immortal, so how can we determine the copyright situation?

L. Frank Baum's book "The wonderful wizard of Oz", published in 1900, is clearly out of copyright, but what about the film "The wizard of Oz" based on the book and published in 1939?

Is it the book being out of copyright, or are we supposed to wait for the film company to "die", and then another half century on top of that? How can we tell whether a film (or a record) is still subject to copyright?

I'll sometimes download a film or a Youtube video, but it's for my own private viewing, so I don't think they'll be coming after me just yet because I'm not making money or re-distributing anything, but the copyright laws do need clarifying if we're to remain within the law.

Either that or just don't do it.

Btw, a few films are available on Youtube, but I find a wider selection, plus some old tv programmes, at Alluc.ce.

I won't give a working link though because I was told by one of the mods here (Cantrel I believe) that there's something about the Alluc site that Norton security doesn't like, so use it at your own risk, and take every possible precaution if you go there.

Watch out for foreign language subtitles too. I once found "The best of Benny Hill" with Greek subtitles, and a lot of the English language films have what looks to me like Arabic or other subtitles, so if that's a problem, you'll need to watch at least a part of the film before deciding whether it's worth downloading.
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WARNING!

I think I've just discovered why Norton security doesn't like Alluc (see my post immediately above this one).

I'm currently "researching" a very old film, by which I mean it's one I've heard of and want to find out what it's about.

With Alluc, I always get two pop-ups (sometimes more) in new windows. It's irritating but all I have to do is close them and then I can watch the film.

This time it's different. I paused the film and got another pop-up that's trying to force me to "manually update Firefox", and which refuses to close whatever I do.

I'm not falling for it, and neither should anyone else. It's an attack of some kind.

Fortunately I'm using Ubuntu (a Linux "distro"), so I've decided to download the film to watch later, and then I'll use the killall firefox terminal command to close all Firefox windows and associated processes.

Windows users may find the only way out is to reboot.

It seems Norton is right. Stay away from Alluc unless you really are taking every possible precaution against malware and are as certain as you can be that your setup won't be damaged by whatever this fake "Firefox update" demand really is.
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Windows users may find the only way out is to reboot.
You should be able to kill it in Task Manager.
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