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Default Watch full movies on YouTube

If you find an older movie you want to watch, before buying the DVD see if it is available on YouTube. It is surprising what you can watch.

I found three recently, including a documentary, all of which I downloaded to watch offline later. I use 4k Video Downloader to achieve this.

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So copyright theft is ok on this forum as well as breaching YouTubes T&C ?
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Old 26-12-17, 22:14
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First, I must assume that f the video is on You-tube it legal to watch.

Second, I am downloading for my private use only.

Third, 4K Video Downloader would be banned if it was promoting illegal activity.
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Old 26-12-17, 22:20
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First, I must assume that f the video is on You-tube it legal to watch.

Second, I am downloading for my private use only.

Third, 4K Video Downloader would be banned if it was promoting illegal activity.
just becuase its on youtube does not make it legal. Google would offer download services if they wanted it. They done so it must be agaisint there own T&C.
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Old 27-12-17, 09:35
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Default Re: Watch full movies on YouTube

Perhaps we can just agree that YouTube should remove any videos which breach legal rules.

Meanwhile if a video is on YouTube I might download it.
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Old 27-12-17, 09:48
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That's sorted that argument then :LOL
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Default Re: Watch full movies on YouTube

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Perhaps we can just agree that YouTube should remove any videos which breach legal rules.

Meanwhile if a video is on YouTube I might download it.
The YouTube user agreement specifically prohibits that, so doing so breaches the legal rules:

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You agree not to access Content through any technology or means other than the video playback pages of the Service itself, the Embeddable Player, or other explicitly authorized means YouTube may designate.
from here:
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I am waiting for advice on the legal matters and will update in due course.
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Default Re: Watch full movies on YouTube

Watching a stream isn't illegal even if it's copyright material and the people streaming do not have the copyright licence. The people who uploaded it to Youtube are acting illegally though if they don't have the copyright licence but watching such illegally streamed material isn't itself illegal, although your own moral outlook will no doubt determine if you should watched it or not.

Youtube may have T&Cs to suit their own media marketing business but it could be argued that Google are themselves acting illegally by not demonstrating due diligence and monitoring more closely what they are hosting, personally I think their T&Cs are just a front; they are quietly happy to have a many YT hits as possible to bolster their own operation.

Strictly speaking Downloading and saving copyright material is illegal. Although what is termed as 'saving' is continually argued about.

ie, if a stream is not watchable due to buffering and the stream is therefore downloaded to temporary storage media such as a USB stick or your hard drive to be one time watched and then deleted is it really that different to watching the live stream?? (Not my argument just saying like)

On the other hand if a live stream is downloaded and written to permanent storage media such as DVD especially if several DVDs, or it is re-transmitted/distributed then that most definitely is illegal.

If it is legal to record TV streamed media to a hard drive TV recorder or an old fashioned VHS Tape recorder (which is, after all, permanent and portable storage) for personal later viewing what is the difference between that and recording it on-line??

The legal view on that may be different in the States as it is again different in the Netherlands and as it varies again in Spain and Italy where it is only illegal if done to make and sell copies and then some countries just don't give a monkey's either way such as Switzerland.
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I have received this from 4K. let this be the end of the challenge please.

Liza (4K Download)
Dec 28, 12:05 MSK

Hi Clive,

Thanks for your message.

Our products are absolutely legal, if you use it for your private needs.

Kind regards,

Liza
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